Exactly! People speak different languages for different historical and social reasons. That alone cannot justify invasions. I'm English speaking Trini. We became an independent country in 1962. Are we artificial? The logic is faulty.
According to the Kiel Institute, the six countries most supportive of Ukraine, measured by share of GDP given in assistance, are all former satellite nations of the USSR. Those countries, in order, are Estonia, Latvia, Poland, Lithuania, Slovakia and the Czech Republic. US support ranks 29th. Our total support is biggest because our economy is biggest, but our commitment is far from the strongest. Those who try to reduce this to "a proxy war between the US and Russia" tend to ignore that fact.
If Ukraine is like Ireland, then Donbass is like Northern Ireland (and should therefore belong to Russia). And Crimea is as if Wales was placed in the same administrative division as Ireland sometime during the 1800s for some purely practical purposes. And the current Ukrainian attitude could be compared to hypothetical Ireland claiming that "Wales is Ireland" and that it wouldn't stop fighting the UK before Wales gets under Irish control.
To anyone using the "1991 referendum" argument: even in the UK, where the government is being a real dick about not letting Scotland decide its own future, even the Conservative government is willing to give Scotland the opportunity for an independence referendum once in a generation. Never mind that many people rightly argue that a major political change, such as Brexit, should warrant organising a new referendum much sooner than in a generation.
The removal of a pro-Russian president from office without following constitutional procedures can rightly be considered a major political change, especially in Donbass, where the pro-Russian sentiment was strongest.
[Just as it’s very easy to imagine an Irish nationalist who speaks no other language but English]
Hold on a minute... really? I would expect a self-respecting Irish nationalist to speak Gaelic. I can't imagine a Catalonian nationalist not speaking Catalonian (they would be a laughing stock). OTOH, I know there have been Basque nationalists that did not speak Basque, but that didn't speak very well of their motivations, their evolution and their nationalism.
Exactly! People speak different languages for different historical and social reasons. That alone cannot justify invasions. I'm English speaking Trini. We became an independent country in 1962. Are we artificial? The logic is faulty.
Such ingratitude for the people who brought you the Holodomor.
According to the Kiel Institute, the six countries most supportive of Ukraine, measured by share of GDP given in assistance, are all former satellite nations of the USSR. Those countries, in order, are Estonia, Latvia, Poland, Lithuania, Slovakia and the Czech Republic. US support ranks 29th. Our total support is biggest because our economy is biggest, but our commitment is far from the strongest. Those who try to reduce this to "a proxy war between the US and Russia" tend to ignore that fact.
https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/
Civic Proofreading (?):
A typo and an unfinished sentence:
It’ss the assumption that “Russian speaking” with “Russian”
If Ukraine is like Ireland, then Donbass is like Northern Ireland (and should therefore belong to Russia). And Crimea is as if Wales was placed in the same administrative division as Ireland sometime during the 1800s for some purely practical purposes. And the current Ukrainian attitude could be compared to hypothetical Ireland claiming that "Wales is Ireland" and that it wouldn't stop fighting the UK before Wales gets under Irish control.
To anyone using the "1991 referendum" argument: even in the UK, where the government is being a real dick about not letting Scotland decide its own future, even the Conservative government is willing to give Scotland the opportunity for an independence referendum once in a generation. Never mind that many people rightly argue that a major political change, such as Brexit, should warrant organising a new referendum much sooner than in a generation.
The removal of a pro-Russian president from office without following constitutional procedures can rightly be considered a major political change, especially in Donbass, where the pro-Russian sentiment was strongest.
[Just as it’s very easy to imagine an Irish nationalist who speaks no other language but English]
Hold on a minute... really? I would expect a self-respecting Irish nationalist to speak Gaelic. I can't imagine a Catalonian nationalist not speaking Catalonian (they would be a laughing stock). OTOH, I know there have been Basque nationalists that did not speak Basque, but that didn't speak very well of their motivations, their evolution and their nationalism.